WAP Via Broadband - Yes, It's Possible read in :)

[speedyandre]

i dont have at home, i cant even get conected to the home phone coz it work with pre-paid cards, and i dont think i will use it a lot of time when im at home coz here at work all day are conected and when im out of work the last thing i think is a PC jajajaja but sometimes i need something from the web :p

Ok, then it's simple, install Opera-mini on your phone and you can go on the internet using gprs if you want to pay for the data you use :)
Your phone is also usable as a modem for your laptop, you then use the phone just for the (gprs) internet connection.
But that's not really what this topic is about.

André

[joselus]

ok thanks man.. i try that..(sorry for get out of topic..) use the phone like modem but is to expensive.. ill search for Opera-mini to the phone.. thanks a lot :p

[ImanAzlan]

I also tried all this on my T630 with the newest (small) Opera, but it can't make a serial network connection like the T610 can :(
So I think that the bluetooth stack is a little bit different :rolleyes:

André


I do think this explains my "cant-connect-T630" question:(

[T630ric]

Tanx 4 d tip speedyandre, i really needed clues how to do it... Tanx agen... i am now able to activate opera mini thru my phone... Yesss!!! Too bad that i didnt buy a bluetooth dongle with higher range, mine is only 10m... sigh!

[T630ric]

Hey joselus i had the same error as u, d DeviceExplorer detects hanging connection and closes afterward... although steps i use r different from from windows, u might get some clue as to how u can resolve it.

i use BlueSoleil...
1.) BlueSoleil Explorer - Tools - Configurations - Quick Connect (this is where i assign remote devices for automatic connections when Windows application opens the port - assign port to cellphone) wen u connect to PC thru bluetooth connection, PC assigns a temp port for it, wat ur trying to do is assign specific port for ur cell.

iM guessing this is where u assign port in Windows ((i maybe mistaken))
WinXP, Start - Control Panel - Performance and Maintenance - System - Hardware - Device Manager - Ports

2.) Click SonyEricsson J2ME SDK - ConnectionProxy - Configuration (looks like a clog wheel) - enter the port number u assign in Port Name and Maximum Baud Rate (115200 for broad band, for dial up it is lower)

after saving the configuration in ConnectionProxy. close it and click ConnectionProxy again... it shud detect ur K750i... Now click Device Explorer... it will show installed application (OPERA mini is installed) and games. Click the OPERA mini in DeviceExplorer and the Opera browser on ur cellphone will be activated and u can now surf using ur phone at broadband speed (or dialup speed).

im still not able to configure properly remote desktop to let me access broad band wen i start OPERA thru my cellphone. so i got it half correct

[drorange]

need help it won't work i have got sony ericsson sdk i have installed it and all but when i try to use opera it doesn't work.

[kobrakaan]

need help it won't work i have got sony ericsson sdk i have installed it and all but when i try to use opera it doesn't work.


did you also install the JDK the JAVA DEVELOPMENT KIT you need that too :)


not the RUNTIME ENVIROMENT (JRE) its the JDK :)

mentioned in the first page and linked to the other site there is a link there to download it :)

[speedyandre]

im still not able to configure properly remote desktop to let me access broad band wen i start OPERA thru my cellphone. so i got it half correct

Bluesoleil is known not to be ready to accept HID commands, you need to activate HID from Bluesoleil and that makes HID useless.
Maybe you can find a way to let Bluesoleil autoconnect HID, then it would respond to your phone correctly like other drivers do.

André

[joselus]

Hey joselus i had the same error as u, d DeviceExplorer detects hanging connection and closes afterward... although steps i use r different from from windows, u might get some clue as to how u can resolve it.

i use BlueSoleil...
1.) BlueSoleil Explorer - Tools - Configurations - Quick Connect (this is where i assign remote devices for automatic connections when Windows application opens the port - assign port to cellphone) wen u connect to PC thru bluetooth connection, PC assigns a temp port for it, wat ur trying to do is assign specific port for ur cell.

iM guessing this is where u assign port in Windows ((i maybe mistaken))
WinXP, Start - Control Panel - Performance and Maintenance - System - Hardware - Device Manager - Ports

2.) Click SonyEricsson J2ME SDK - ConnectionProxy - Configuration (looks like a clog wheel) - enter the port number u assign in Port Name and Maximum Baud Rate (115200 for broad band, for dial up it is lower)

after saving the configuration in ConnectionProxy. close it and click ConnectionProxy again... it shud detect ur K750i... Now click Device Explorer... it will show installed application (OPERA mini is installed) and games. Click the OPERA mini in DeviceExplorer and the Opera browser on ur cellphone will be activated and u can now surf using ur phone at broadband speed (or dialup speed).

im still not able to configure properly remote desktop to let me access broad band wen i start OPERA thru my cellphone. so i got it half correct

eit, thanks dude, i dont try last nite, get busy but maybe i have time today i will try changin the COM port and print ur tip to check at home and i dont have BT lol and my Laptop IrdA didnt work propertly to, maybe i need a new laptop :p but i will try it n when i got news ill post it here, thanks

[jraznar]

this is great kobrakaan....but my problem is.. i just ordered my pc and it will get to me this wk... im not using mine and i dont wanna download stuff in this computer pls make this a sticky thread and pls tell me wut i need again in plain english (hehehe) wut i need to do this. i have a w600 i. i know this asking too much. im a beginner :D thnx

[kobrakaan]

this is great kobrakaan....but my problem is.. i just ordered my pc and it will get to me this wk... im not using mine and i dont wanna download stuff in this computer pls make this a sticky thread and pls tell me wut i need again in plain english (hehehe) wut i need to do this. i have a w600 i. i know this asking too much. im a beginner :D thnx


its here in plain english just follow the guide on the first page to the letter:)

install the SDK and the JRE as per linked page on the first post of this thread and you should be fine :)


im sure this thread will not go missing by the time you get sorted with your PC :)

you could always EMAIL the link to this thread to yourself and then you will not loose it :D

[kobrakaan]

Ok so you all want proof that this REALLY DOES WORK! then here it is ... my REMOTE REPLY IS MY PROOF! :p :p :p :-)

[kobrakaan]

Ok so you all want proof that this REALLY DOES WORK! then here it is ... my REMOTE REPLY IS MY PROOF! :p :p :p :-)


hmmm didnt say i had posted by a remote device but i did :) lol :)


heres a pic of it on my k750i ... apologies for the crappy quality its taken with my T610 lol :p :)

[PhoenixBurn]

@kobra
Watch triple posting - you know better :p

[meet_death]

Hello..I don't have broadband access...
But is there any way I can use dialup access on my phone using this concept?

Also where do I download opera widescreen edition?

[speedyandre]

Hello..I don't have broadband access...
But is there any way I can use dialup access on my phone using this concept?

Also where do I download opera widescreen edition?

If you mean using your landline dialup to connect to your mobile phone then the answer is yes, just follow the guide.
The widescreen Opera is made by a Russian guy on Esato (http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=116808&start=0)

André

[kobrakaan]

@kobra
Watch triple posting - you know better :p


lol :p it was supposed to be like that :p have you tried it yet PB please post your results :)

[razorous]

Hi, this is soo great! I've been thinking about this concept ever since bluetooth became famous for phone connection to pc instead of the IR crap... I hope somebody would create like an easy install guide software that would basically install everything on the PC needed, and also the jar files for the phone automatically. Something like a software for computer idiots guys like me.

If you try to check Sailing Clicker, It did an installation really cool and guided me to install a *.jar to the phone that was pritty easy to install aswell. But in this case, I guess, using Opera Mini and Sony Ericsson SDK would have something to do with software licencing or something? Or maybe someone could create a Mini HTML viewer like Opera Mini and create like a small utility on the PC that could get to configure these ports and stuff for the bluetooth/Cable/IR automatically... Geezze... Anyways I haven't tried this one myself yet, but as I could see, you guys did it with one hand. Hehehe... By the way, is it posible if my laptop only have dial-up connection? Sorry I dont have broadband yet... Can't afford it.

One thing is, it somewhat works like a wireless / Wifi adapter right? Its just 10m, so not goin to be that handy, but I've heard that Bluetooth class A have a range up to 100m? Is this true?

[speedyandre]

The problem is that most bluetooth sticks install different because of the supplied drivers.
The SE sdk will install flawlessly and it points you to the needed Java website (Sun.com) to download some software.
The manual in the startpost is quite easy, so I think anyone can install it with some help ;)
You can use dialup too, it doesn't matter what kind of internetconnection you have (I've confirmed this earlier in this topic).
So give it a try, it's fun to browse on the toilet but don't loose your phone there, it could get wet and smell badly :D

André

[Mr.ASAP]

Test test. test test. :) :D :p ?!?@&~|$ yes it works for me

[kobrakaan]

Test test. test test. :) :D :p ?!?@&~|$ yes it works for me



doesnt say its remote posted tho mr asap :p but works well dont it :)

[divyajagasia]

I tried downloading the SE SDK file thrice... But it says its corrupt and invalid.
SOmeone plz help.

[joselus]

didnt work for me i guess its my laptop its low on resources, but i have all the files, when i got a new PC or laptop i will try again.. :p

[_Jacques_]

Yup, works fine with me on a k750, bt with windows drivers! Too bad i am limited to only 10m range.

[kobrakaan]

I tried downloading the SE SDK file thrice... But it says its corrupt and invalid.
SOmeone plz help.


use a download manager and right click and copy and paste the SDK www. address into the download manager this will allow you to resume the file if it stops :)

[mannykek]

i tried this with info from another forum,but withusb cable.it didnot work.the info from the other forum involved creating a wap profile onthe phone, now afetr reading all this i understand that only opera mini is to be installed, and no other config is to be done on the phone,whatever else is done is done on the pc, am i correct ?

[speedyandre]

i tried this with info from another forum,but withusb cable.it didnot work.the info from the other forum involved creating a wap profile onthe phone, now afetr reading all this i understand that only opera mini is to be installed, and no other config is to be done on the phone,whatever else is done is done on the pc, am i correct ?

That is correct and welcome on this forum :)
By installing the SE software and starting the browser from your pc you create an internet gateway for the phone, so Opera-mini knows where to get the data from.
Other java (j2me) software like internet-games and chat programs work the same way.
You can try them out without using gprs, if the applet supports all this of course ;)

[mannykek]

sorry to be a prat but i get the message that "a hanging proxy was detected and device exploere closed it,you may change the timeout by altering the timeout.tool property in the sdkme properties file' also my bluetooth serial port connection disconnects after sometime ,is there something wrong with the dongle?
suggestions welcome!

suddenly everything started working !! it's fun. one last question , is it possible to download anything, or do we need a gprs connection ?

[speedyandre]

suddenly everything started working !! it's fun. one last question , is it possible to download anything, or do we need a gprs connection ?

The official Opera-mini browser can't download files, but in my post #66, there's a link to Esato with a modded Opera-mini offering wide-screen and downloading of files, it also has a fileviewer :)

André

[kobrakaan]

The official Opera-mini browser can't download files, but in my post #66, there's a link to Esato with a modded Opera-mini offering wide-screen and downloading of files, it also has a fileviewer :)

André


hmmmm always throws an error up when i try download anything at all :( any ideas why André ??

and thats with the ones i had and the one on Esato :(

[speedyandre]

hmmmm always throws an error up when i try download anything at all :( any ideas why André ??

and thats with the ones i had and the one on Esato :(

I can't download all files, attachments on this forum can't be saved, but others work fine.
Maybe the link must be pointing to the file and not to another link : dnt know
Did you get a Java exception error or something else?
Here it asks every time for permission to change dir or save files on my phone ...

André

P.S.
When I download a pic from my homepage it works fine, maybe it fails with other websites. I also can save a page of this forum :D

[Toli1]

Which folder would the se device explorer be? Theres all this random programs and folders I don't know which one to click.

[speedyandre]

Which folder would the se device explorer be? Theres all this random programs and folders I don't know which one to click.

It's here: C:\SonyEricsson\J2ME_SDK\OnDeviceDebug\bin\ejava.e xe.
You can find it from the startmenu in Sony Ericsson\J2ME SDK\.

André

[Toli1]

Yeah now everytime I pick a com I can't connect. Please help I when into my device manager and it had several bluetooth coms then I tried over and over again changing the settings in the connection proxy and still it never connects. I'm exhausted.

[speedyandre]

Yeah now everytime I pick a com I can't connect. Please help I when into my device manager and it had several bluetooth coms then I tried over and over again changing the settings in the connection proxy and still it never connects. I'm exhausted.

Maybe it helps when you first make a serial connection with your phone from your bluetooth driver (Widcomm, Toshiba etc).
You can do this by clicking the bluetooth icon in the tray or go to my bluetooth places.
Once this serial connection is established the device explorer will use it.
Maybe you also can see which com port the bluetooth connection has when the serial connection is ok, else you still need to try this with different com ports.
The maximum speed of the com port is 230400 bps, else the phone will disconnect.

André

[Toli1]

It connects now after doing what you said but then it says: Device explorer detected a hanging connection proxy and closed it.

[experts]

hey thanks man...it works great....
however all the wap sites detect my k750i as a 6230!!!
any ideas why?

[speedyandre]

hey thanks man...it works great....
however all the wap sites detect my k750i as a 6230!!!
any ideas why?

I think because Opera-mini is not designed to be a wap browser, it is a browser for normal http websites :)
In my opinion the title of this topic isn't 100% right, it should be something like 'internet via broadband' to cover what Opera-mini really does, but by accident it understands wap (Xhtml) too ;)
The built-in wap browser of the K750i can't be started the way Opera-mini is started because it's not a Java applet.
Maybe there is a Java wap browser somewere on the internet, but if using Opera-mini doesn't give other problems then identifying a phone wrong I think it's a minor issue :)

André

[drorange]

yes i finally got it working gettting bluetooth usb thing 2 moro. has any1 got the blurtooth thing working where you open it from ur phone.

[razorous]

So after all this works, does it mean I can do Yahoo Messenger on my K750? Is it posible to do an application that can do VIOP calls? Mmm...

[kobrakaan]

So after all this works, does it mean I can do Yahoo Messenger on my K750? Is it posible to do an application that can do VIOP calls? Mmm...


E-MSN works fine so i guess that if theres a JAVA YAHOO it will work too :)

not sure about VOIP but i guess its possible :)

[Toli1]

It connects now after doing what you said but then it says: Device explorer detected a hanging connection proxy and closed it.

Please help!

[T630ric]

Hi Toli1, please read the other post in this topic... i use BlueSoleil, and i was able to assign a port for my K750i... it may be different steps but u myt get some clues on how to do it using WinXP... gud luck!!!

im still not able to activate HID thru bluesoleil explorer... i can only initiate Opera mini broadband connection thru PC... :(

[speedyandre]

If bluesoleil doesn't work you maybe can try Widcomm 5.x drivers if your dongle is licenced to use Widcomm.
I haven't got bluesoleil drivers, the trial drivers don't work with my dongles.

André

[foo25]

Hey, I can connect my W810i on the SE software and start Opera through it and eMSN and stuff, but it can't seem to connect to my internet.

By the way I'm on a wireless router so I'm always connected incase that would cause any probelm?

[kobrakaan]

Hey, I can connect my W810i on the SE software and start Opera through it and eMSN and stuff, but it can't seem to connect to my internet.

By the way I'm on a wireless router so I'm always connected incase that would cause any probelm?


check your settings on your mobile it should prompt you to allow access when you start opera via the SE SDK ...choose yes when prompted :)

[foo25]

I did, but it just says processing and then gives the error -

Could not open connection to server (error: 14.0.43:90/).

Confusing : dnt know

[faraz_k86]

i guess im an idiot in this matter cause i have no idea what u guys are talking about.

what is the SDK.

ok the opera i get cause i have the opera mini and is the opera widescreen free like the opera mini.

and what is the java development kit

[razorous]

E-MSN works fine so i guess that if theres a JAVA YAHOO it will work too :)

not sure about VOIP but i guess its possible :)

I have also downloaded some games and see that they can actually connect to the internet to do multiplayer functions. Would this work with this concept?

[kobrakaan]

i guess im an idiot in this matter cause i have no idea what u guys are talking about.

what is the SDK.

ok the opera i get cause i have the opera mini and is the opera widescreen free like the opera mini.

and what is the java development kit


read the first page of this thread and click the link to get to the downloads :)


sdk is the SERVICE DEVELOPMENT KIT :)